Sailor · 1978–1981

John Messenger

Etchells

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Events: 5
Win rate: 0%
Podium rate: 0%
Typically beats: 32%
Best class ranking: #794

Nemesis: David Curtis
Rival: Louis Piana
Signature result: 19th of 42

Partnerships · 6 sailors

William Kopsen · KA21 · Etchells 1events 0 wins together · 0 podiums · 1 events · 0 of 6 races won Beat 23% of the fleet together · best 35th · Aug 1979 – Aug 1979
John Annand · KA21 · Etchells 1events 0 wins together · 0 podiums · 1 events · 0 of 5 races won Beat 26% of the fleet together · best 29th · Aug 1978 – Aug 1978
Chris Messenger · KA121 · Etchells 1events 0 wins together · 0 podiums · 1 events · 0 of 6 races won Beat 15% of the fleet together · best 59th · Sep 1981 – Sep 1981
George Rose · KA21 · Etchells 1events 0 wins together · 0 podiums · 1 events · 0 of 5 races won Beat 26% of the fleet together · best 29th · Aug 1978 – Aug 1978
Brad Palmer · KA121 · Etchells 1events 0 wins together · 0 podiums · 1 events · 0 of 6 races won Beat 15% of the fleet together · best 59th · Sep 1981 – Sep 1981
Peter Hay · KA21 · Etchells 1events 0 wins together · 0 podiums · 1 events · 0 of 6 races won Beat 23% of the fleet together · best 35th · Aug 1979 – Aug 1979

Lift shows how much better this sailor finishes with that partner aboard.

Rating history

Event history · 5

Date	Event	Boat	Class	Role	Finish
5 Sep 1981	1981 Etchells World Championship	KA121	Etchells	Skipper	59th / 69
1 Jan 1980	1980 Etchells World Championship	KA21	Etchells	Skipper	17th / 35
20 Aug 1979	1979 Etchells World Championship	KA21	Etchells	Skipper	35th / 45
11 Aug 1978	1978 Etchells World Championship	KA21	Etchells	Skipper	29th / 39
11 Jan 1978	1977 Etchells World Championship	KA21	Etchells	Skipper	19th / 42

Ratings

Class	Rating	Rank	Impact
Full-size sailing Helm	-36 provisional	#60412 band 37291–76967	—
Etchells Helm	-36 provisional	#794 band 471–1024	—

Rank among sailors with a substantial record, all time. In brackets, the ranks this rating cannot be told apart from. Impact is the points of fleet beaten that this sailor adds.

Helm and crew

As helm	5 events	0 wins	beats 35%
As crew	0 events	0 wins	beats —

How they race

Closer	−7 pts	last race of an event vs. the rest
Comeback	−1 pts	the race after a bottom-half finish
Big fleets	35%	of the fleet beaten

Head to head

Helm	Races	W–L
David Curtis	28	3–24
Louis Piana	27	11–16
John Savage	24	2–22
Harry Carr	23	13–10
John Hancock	22	8–14
Ted Driscoll	18	8–10
Peter O'Donnell	18	1–17
Timmy Larr	18	5–13
Barry Nesbitt	18	9–9
Andrew Plympton	18	10–8
James Byrne	17	9–8
Jon Standley	17	5–12

Most-beaten opponent: James Annand (10–2).

Seasons

Year	Events	Beat
1981	1	15%
1980	1	53%
1979	1	23%
1978	2	41%

Boats

KA21 · Etchells · 4 events · 1978–1980
KA121 · Etchells · 1 events · 1981

Where they race

Brighton, Victoria, Australia · 1 events
Palm Beach, New South Wales, Australia · 1 events
Toronto, Ontario, Canada · 1 events
Balboa, California, USA · 1 events
Marblehead, Massachusetts, USA · 1 events

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Helm rating, Full-size sailing: -36, #60,412. Compiled from public results; not an official ranking.